For The Love Of Port

Derek T. wrote:Krohn 1982 is fairly easily obtained in the UK for around £50 per bottle. I would be very surprised if the Graham isn't two or three times that price

£95 per bottle is the price i've seen quoted (with an element of that being a contribution to Bagos D'Ouro)

Certainly it can be done when money is being flashed around. I don't think you will find any shipper willing to breach the IVDP regulations and send you un-bottled Port no matter how much money you offer them. No reason why it should have to be "port"....presumably there is no rule that p...

Seems to me that there has either been a change in rules or that the bottling year was never mandated. I would think it would have to be the former on the basis of the link i provided upthread. Article 3(h) of Reg 23/2006 ( link ) suggests that it [bottling date] is required and there's no indicati...

Miguel: Looks like one of the hard plastic closures common for 70's bottlings(UK?)-very hard to remove. Just seen on Taylor and Fonseca bottlings. I don't think they're restricted to just Taylor / Fonseca - i've certainly had Cockburn, Croft and Graham with these plastic closures as well. Am sure i...

John, thanks for the info. Was wondering what the deal was w that, as other pics i had seen of F70 didnt show it. Guess that one bottle just missed the selo then. Selo comes off quite easily. Can't count how many bottles I have where the glue just gives from the 70's and older bottles. If it was En...

Only option i see would be to sell it as a regular Noval Don't think the IVDP would like that... I'm not so convinced this would be out of the question. Otherwise that would imply that every B.o.B. was destined from the outset to be a B.o.B., rather than being approved as VP in the name "X&quo...

How did they designate it as a 2011 release? I can't recall seeing that before. Usually, I see a new release being stated as ex-cellars or ex-Oporto, but it's not on the bottle. I've come across a few merchants who state the date of ex-cellars release in their listings (particularly with Fonseca 85...

Al B.'s TN on G70 from 2012-03-29 ( link ) was from a bottle of the 2011 ex-cellars release that i acquired in the UK. As always, there will be some variability. And naturally, it shows more mature than a bottle that has been stored underground somewhere in a cooler climate over the last four decade...

Glenn, Actually, the term Traditional as applied to LBV, was in the past "Tradiçional" LBV and that was changed to Unfiltered, I believe in 2005. Was "Traditional" or "Tradiçional" ever an IVP / IVDP-approved category? I thought it was just a term that came into common...

However, the people behind it seem to have nothing to do w Port wine Their winemaker has been there since '99....how long does he need to be there before he qualifies?! Have had it on good authority that their 2011 VP is a cracker and i've already got my name on the list for she of that with their ...

The other day I came across a couple of bottles of LBVs, one was an '06 Dow and the other was an '07 Cockburn. Strangely enough neither of them had a bottling date. I also found it impossible to find a bottling date on the Graham 2006 LBV. Perhaps this is a Symington stand! The Malvedos blog indica...

Pure speculation on my part, but i can't recall off hand seeing a port bottle from the 1940s with a raised, moulded producer's ensign...could this be a colheita bottled in the 70s? Is there a label on the back that says something similar to the following: "This portwine has been produced in the...

Warre 1983 is drinking nicely and my recent experience is that it does not feel too young (I think Graham is probably the better long-term port but still strikes me as "better in 5-10 years" type of port when i have had it over the last 12-24 months). Niepoort 1983 is certainly not too you...

The fridge you link to seems to be marketed as a "wine cooler" as opposed to a long-term wine storage unit. In the UK at least, my experience is that this is likely to mean it runs off a regular fridge compressor and therefore have more vibration than is ideal (though i don't know how much...

Cockburn

The more i think about it, the more i'd be surprised if the Symingtons did not have at least some quantity of other VP approved by IVDP (but left undeclared) for use in BoBs etc. But then again, maybe not.

whereas Ramos Pinto 20yr tawny seems to have gone the other way and reverted to 750ml. I haven't seen a trend in the UK (if anythnig, the opposite - Dow Master Blend LBV was another that used to come in a 500ml bottle that i haven't seen recently), but i can see why Dalva have moved to them for the ...

BTW, Quarles Harris was declared and will be bottled. Can you share your source? This is news to me - I'm quite keen to try the QH for the same reasons I like buying and drinking Skeffington. My source had a capital "S" in his last name and he's had it a bunch of times already :lol: Sound...

Don't get me started on the 100 point scoring system... [dash1.gif] It has nothing to do with the 100 point system, or with awarding 100 points to a 2011 Port. (The latter is a separate gripe of mine. Newly released Vintage Ports are far too young for anyone to be able to say that they are - or eve...

Pretty much every time the Symington Family Estates has come in and invested in a Port company, they have done so, in such a way that not only the "brand" improves in terms of recognition but more so, quality. I have little doubt that will be the case with Cockburn's too as they have alre...