I completely agree, Glenn. I find the recent Barbeito "Vinho do Reitor" 40yo more in line with my expectations of an older Barbeito Malvasia.Glenn E. wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:26 pm Barbeito O Japones 50 Year Old Malvasia
While a very nice Madeira, I didn't feel it lived up to the hype I'd seen about it. It was lighter and more ethereal than most older Malvasias, and according to the spec sheet is only 97 g/l residual sugar. That seems rather low for a Malvasia, which I'm sure contributed to the etherealness of the wine. The consensus at the table was 94 points, whereas I've seen 19.5 and 20 out of 20 as well as 100 pts on the internet.
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Really? That seems odd to me, because the Vinho do Reitor is only 94 g/l residual sugar. It is also noticeably lower total acidity, though, so maybe it just presents sweeter?Mike K. wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:36 amI completely agree, Glenn. I find the recent Barbeito "Vinho do Reitor" 40yo more in line with my expectations of an older Barbeito Malvasia.Glenn E. wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:26 pm Barbeito O Japones 50 Year Old Malvasia
While a very nice Madeira, I didn't feel it lived up to the hype I'd seen about it. It was lighter and more ethereal than most older Malvasias, and according to the spec sheet is only 97 g/l residual sugar. That seems rather low for a Malvasia, which I'm sure contributed to the etherealness of the wine. The consensus at the table was 94 points, whereas I've seen 19.5 and 20 out of 20 as well as 100 pts on the internet.
My experience with Madeira tells me that the D'Oliveiras style suits me best, but what I can find from them is either really old (and really expensive) or relatively young. Their younger Malvasias lack character to me, so I'd really love to find some that are closer to 50 years old to see what they're like.
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Tasting both of these side-by-side is actually quite fun. :)
I think you are right Glenn, the higher acidity on the "50" makes a big difference. That and the "grapefruit" notes I get in a lot of Barbeito blends is not what one might expect from an old Malvasia.
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I like D'Olviera's style of Madeira more than Barbeito in general.
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Nice! What do you think of it?Eric Ifune wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:06 pm Rare Wine Company Benjamin Franklin 10 year anniversary Special Reserve.
Manny's write-up was quite intriguing.
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Greatly prefer it to the first iteration. Meio Doce. A round and rich version.
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1969 Blandy's Terrantez
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Nice!Gary Banker wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 7:34 am 1957 H&H Boal (Bottled in 1992)
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I prefer Blandy's 1976 Terrantez (the ones I've had were bottled in 1997) over their 1977 which was more recently bottled. The 1976 has a great liveliness to it, while the 1977 is more dark and brooding from extra years in the wood, and has a short bitter finish (for me).
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Today is 21 may, 2021,
This is the 21st day of the month; the start of the 21st week of the year 2021 (which is the 21st year of the 21 st century).
Accordingly I have opened a 21 year old madeira which will be tasted at 21:21 (local time - just over an hour from now) - because what else is better than Madeira for celebrating?
For reference: it's the 2000 Barbeito Malvasia Colheita Single Cask A & E - now that it's 21 years old, does that make it a Vintage rather than a Colheita?
This is the 21st day of the month; the start of the 21st week of the year 2021 (which is the 21st year of the 21 st century).
Accordingly I have opened a 21 year old madeira which will be tasted at 21:21 (local time - just over an hour from now) - because what else is better than Madeira for celebrating?
For reference: it's the 2000 Barbeito Malvasia Colheita Single Cask A & E - now that it's 21 years old, does that make it a Vintage rather than a Colheita?
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I think it has to spend 20 years in cask. You've got the right idea, though, with the number 21...auspicious! Enjoy!
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As I recall, it's a strange definition. IIRC "Frasqueira" is 19 years in wood and 1 year in bottle prior to release. So it is 20 years old at release, but only 19 of those must be in wood. No idea why they would define it that way... it sure seems like 20 years in wood would be much simpler!Joe Dachille wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 6:30 am I think it has to spend 20 years in cask. You've got the right idea, though, with the number 21...auspicious! Enjoy!
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Thanks for the clarification.