Hi!
To all experts out there I was wondering about the different "lines" that our highly-appreciated producer has been bottling.
I have in mind:
- regular "Barbeito"
- Quinta do Serrado
- MMV
- MVB
- FV
Does anyone have an idea or knowledge about the distinctions or in which period before mentioned have been produced?
Are there more "special labels" I'm not aware of?
Thanks
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Re: Barbeito
The regular Barbeito are the regular wines.
The added designations are the original source of the wines. I'll have to look up what they all mean.
The added designations are the original source of the wines. I'll have to look up what they all mean.
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Re: Barbeito
I think this is what they all mean:
Quinta do Serrado should be obvious - single-quinta wines from Quinta do Serrado.
MMV - Ricardo's mother's initials - Maria Manuela Vasconcelos. Used for wines of historical significance that she helped protect. These can come from a variety of sources, including the Favilla Viera family listed below.
MBV - Ricardo's grandfather's initials - Mario Barbeito Vasconcelos. Used for wines from the family's private stock.
FV - wines from the Favilla Viera family stocks that Barbeito acquired.
Quinta do Serrado should be obvious - single-quinta wines from Quinta do Serrado.
MMV - Ricardo's mother's initials - Maria Manuela Vasconcelos. Used for wines of historical significance that she helped protect. These can come from a variety of sources, including the Favilla Viera family listed below.
MBV - Ricardo's grandfather's initials - Mario Barbeito Vasconcelos. Used for wines from the family's private stock.
FV - wines from the Favilla Viera family stocks that Barbeito acquired.
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Re: Barbeito
Hi Glen!
QdS: was at Camara do Lobos & belonged to the Henriques. First bottled end of 1980ies; I am not aware of a later bottling altough the bottlings exist in a variety of labels, stencils, handwritings on the bottle. I was surprised to see 14 different QdSs on CT and even some recent Vintage Madeiras (1985, 1976,...) as well as 2 H&Hs from QdS.
MMV: in combination with FV I have never seen this designation; besides I think MMVs have been introduced in the 2010s and are primarily from the period 1880-1895, which makes sense; interestingly one on CT is: 1977V which I doubt to be MMV in fact.
MBV: no idea about the differences of these since even the legendary 1834M exists with MBV. On CT around 20 different MBVs show up. Was this designation also first used in the 2010s? I think so.
FV: Again, around 20 different wines on CT, again, I suspect around the 2010s.
And last, I wanted to mention that there are the special Ribeiro Real bottling RR which consist of 1864M, 1882M, 1893M(bottled 2015) and 1891B (bottled 2019).
QdS: was at Camara do Lobos & belonged to the Henriques. First bottled end of 1980ies; I am not aware of a later bottling altough the bottlings exist in a variety of labels, stencils, handwritings on the bottle. I was surprised to see 14 different QdSs on CT and even some recent Vintage Madeiras (1985, 1976,...) as well as 2 H&Hs from QdS.
MMV: in combination with FV I have never seen this designation; besides I think MMVs have been introduced in the 2010s and are primarily from the period 1880-1895, which makes sense; interestingly one on CT is: 1977V which I doubt to be MMV in fact.
MBV: no idea about the differences of these since even the legendary 1834M exists with MBV. On CT around 20 different MBVs show up. Was this designation also first used in the 2010s? I think so.
FV: Again, around 20 different wines on CT, again, I suspect around the 2010s.
And last, I wanted to mention that there are the special Ribeiro Real bottling RR which consist of 1864M, 1882M, 1893M(bottled 2015) and 1891B (bottled 2019).
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Re: Barbeito
Hi Glen!
QdS: was at Camara do Lobos & belonged to the Henriques. First bottled end of 1980ies; I am not aware of a later bottling although the bottlings exist in a variety of labels, stencils, handwritings on the bottle's front. I was surprised to see 14 different QdSs on CT and even some recent Vintage Madeiras (1985, 1976,...) as well as 2 H&Hs from QdS.
MMV: in combination with FV I have never seen this designation; besides I think MMVs have been introduced in the 2010s and are primarily from the period 1880-1895, which makes sense; interestingly one on CT is: 1977V which I doubt to be MMV in fact.
MBV: no idea about the differences of these since even the legendary 1834M exists with MBV. On CT around 20 different MBVs show up. Was this designation also first used in the 2010s? I think so.
FV: Again, around 20 different wines on CT, again, I suspect around the 2010s.
There also "seems" to be a Afonso "AF" designation with 3 Malvazias from the 19th century (1834M...different to THE 1834M?, 1882B, 1886M) as well as a 2003M(???).
And last, I wanted to mention that there are the special Ribeiro Real bottling RR which consist of 1864M, 1882M, 1893M(bottled 2015) and 1891B (bottled 2019).
QdS: was at Camara do Lobos & belonged to the Henriques. First bottled end of 1980ies; I am not aware of a later bottling although the bottlings exist in a variety of labels, stencils, handwritings on the bottle's front. I was surprised to see 14 different QdSs on CT and even some recent Vintage Madeiras (1985, 1976,...) as well as 2 H&Hs from QdS.
MMV: in combination with FV I have never seen this designation; besides I think MMVs have been introduced in the 2010s and are primarily from the period 1880-1895, which makes sense; interestingly one on CT is: 1977V which I doubt to be MMV in fact.
MBV: no idea about the differences of these since even the legendary 1834M exists with MBV. On CT around 20 different MBVs show up. Was this designation also first used in the 2010s? I think so.
FV: Again, around 20 different wines on CT, again, I suspect around the 2010s.
There also "seems" to be a Afonso "AF" designation with 3 Malvazias from the 19th century (1834M...different to THE 1834M?, 1882B, 1886M) as well as a 2003M(???).
And last, I wanted to mention that there are the special Ribeiro Real bottling RR which consist of 1864M, 1882M, 1893M(bottled 2015) and 1891B (bottled 2019).
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