Which Madeira is sitting in your "death row" queue?

Post by **Roy Hersh** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:39 pm

I am pondering which one to open up next. I have a 50 year old Terrantez by Broadbent which I am considering.

What about you, I know some people here don't seem to like drinking Madeira in the summer time. Just chill it down by ten degrees and it makes a great drink when it is hot out. Sercial can be enjoyed with the right food pairings too. So it does not 'have to' wait for dessert.

Gary Banker · Post by **Gary Banker** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:49 pm

1978 Barbeito sercial is next in line. After that, it's either 1920 Favilla Vieira malvasia or 1927 D'Oliveira bastardo for my birthday.

I couldn't agree more with the tactic of chilling them for the summer, especially the sercial.

Jay Powers · Post by **Jay Powers** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:15 am

I'm currently working on a Broadbent 10 year old malmsey. It's never to hot in Pacifica for Port or Madeira!

Jay

Post by **Roy Hersh** » Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:11 pm

Jay,

What is your assessment of that bottle? I'd like to hear your opinion.

Gary,

I have opened two of my three bottles of Bastardo so far. Although I generally really like Bastardo, I have been underwhelmed both times I've had the 1927 D'Oliveiras and a third time, when it was not my bottle. It is not bad by any means, but lacks some of the thrills and chills Madeiras of that age can provide ... even other Bastardo bottlings from the same vintage. Sorry, I don't mean to rain on your parade.

Eric Ifune · Post by **Eric Ifune** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:24 am

I'm thinking a Verdelho. I don't thing one needs to cool Madeira too much in the summer. The high acidity makes it refreshing. That's one reason, besides how well it shipped, it was so popular during colonial times, in the pre-air conditioned era.

Gary Banker · Post by **Gary Banker** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:19 pm

Roy,

I've read your notes on the 1927 bastardo and Steve Shapiro's tasting notes, as well, so I'm going in with my eyes open. I'm curious to see what I think of the wine and will probably drink it over a week or so. Also, it should provide a nice counterpoint to the 1920 Favilla Vieira.

A friend has a bottle of 1876 bastardo (Blandy's, I think). I haven't been able to get him to sell or trade it yet, but I am very curious about it.

Gary Banker · Post by **Gary Banker** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:20 am

The 1927 bastardo is easily the driest madeira that I have had. I did not notice any of the bitterness that others have described. It's nice, but not worth the price.

On the other hand, the FV 1920 malvasia may be the best madeira I've ever had. I need to get more.

Post by **Roy Hersh** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:26 pm

Gary,

Are you planning to join us on the 18th of October in NYC?

Gary Banker · Post by **Gary Banker** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:44 pm

Roy,

I would like to go to the 18 October event, but I will probably not be in the country. I've been saving an 1884 sercial for something like that.

Moses Botbol · Post by **Moses Botbol** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:47 am

Opened 1977 Blandy's Bual, bottled in 2007 a couple of nights ago. So far, so good.

Post by **Andy Velebil** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:55 pm

Got a Blandy's 15 year Malmsey that I keep trying to open but something else always cuts in line ahead of it. Soon I hope

Moses Botbol · Post by **Moses Botbol** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:06 pm

Jay Powers wrote:I'm currently working on a Broadbent 10 year old malmsey.

I just finished one about a week ago. Just amazing for me. More grape and plum upfront, just the right acid too. I first tried on a pairing with creme brulee and it was a perfect match; ran out to get a bottle from there. I like it better than RWC Historic malmsey for the same price, although I have not had them side by side.

I may be near on case deal for the Broabent 10; hope it goes through!

Peter Reutter · Post by **Peter Reutter** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:34 am

Everytime I had a patient dying that was my age, a little voice inside my head says: No use keeping those old Madeiras for ever, taste them now, when your palate will still know the difference...

So in the long run some great pairs are sitting in the "death row":

1795 Barbeito T vs. 1795 CVM T

H&H WS Boal vs H&H Grand Old Boal

1842 JNV T vs. 1839 T private source

I won't live forever and I plan to outlive my bottles, not the other way round :)
And of course it would be even more fun to taste them in a group, so there is plenty of "ammo" for future tastings :)

Reidar Andersen · Post by **Reidar Andersen** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:15 am

Peter, great deathrow... I have the first four, but the last two I have not ? Private source ?

But I can add, 1846 T Borges against 1862 T Borges.....

But I don't feel so sick at the moment that it has to be done yet

And since I trust you Peter ,as my private Doc, I hope you can keep me going for a long time yet ! :hello:

Peter Reutter · Post by **Peter Reutter** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:57 am

I am sure that drinking a little Madeira (almost) every days helps a lot. Besides all the biochemical things associated with moderate alcohol consumption that lead to a lower rate of cardiovascular deseases, I like to think that some of that immortality of Madeira wine is transferred to me when I drink it...

Doesn't that sound poetic?
I remember reading a story of a couple of men opening an old bottle of Madeira, I think one of them was Alexander von Humboldt (see wikipedia). Two dead flies were found in the wine and carefully rescued and their little dead bodies put on a window shelf. When the sun reach them, one of the flies slowly returned to life buzzing off in the end. That lead the men to discuss the magic powers of Madeira wine.
Anyone remember where to find that story? I would like to include it one http://www.madeirawineguide.com

Gary Banker · Post by **Gary Banker** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:54 pm

Peter,

The story about von Humboldt sounds familiar. I have a book "Humboldt's Cosmos", which I read a few years ago. I will check to see if the story is there.

I have a Barbeito 1944M next in line. I have seen no reviews or TNs for this wine, so I am curious to see how it turns out.

simon Lisle · Post by **simon Lisle** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:42 pm

None I have one madeira 1795 ,my father in law has my others I'm not a great fan but my experiance is limited.

Post by **Roy Hersh** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:27 am

Simon,

I guess if you only had to own one bottle and it couldn't be the 1802 Acciaioly Terrantez, something from 1795 would be a great 2nd option.

Are you ready to fall in love? Open this for a very special occasion with Kath!

simon Lisle · Post by **simon Lisle** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 1:55 pm

Roy I'm no expert but the few I've had have been poor I have bought them for birthdays because port is a rarity in some years. I've had one good one which alludes me but I'm in no hurry to open the old one if I find I don't like madeira I'll pass it on to someone who does

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