I did open a 2000 Warres LBV about an hour ago. I'm sure I'll see another bottle or two at the party we're going to. Enjoy!
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You could make a pretty good case for that safety winning the game for the Ravens. Koch used 8 out of the 12 remaining seconds on that play, which meant that San Francisco didn't even get to run a hail mary. A good play in my opinion.Carl D wrote:A deliberate safety? Are you kidding me? What a sissy way to end the game.
I think Jerry Rice said it correctly. Randy Moss is arguably the most talented wide receiver to ever play in the NFL. However, that doesn't make him the best. Moss only plays when he feels like it, and sometimes even then his effort is lackluster. I saw some classic Moss lack of effort plays in this Super Bowl, one of which was a pass to Moss as the primary receiver. It wasn't perfectly thrown, so Moss just gave up on it. Jerry Rice would out-work you every day of the week, all season long, and all through the off-season as well. I don't think anyone has ever matched his work ethic, and that's why he's still the best wide receiver of all time.Ray Barnes wrote:Agreed with Roy's sentiments with respect to Randy Moss - and his self-proclamation last week of being the greatest wide receiver of all time could not have been more lacking in discretion. Notwithstanding that, his point is very arguable in its own right.
I actually enjoyed is tenure in New England. I can see how it was frustrating for him at times when all your role is to be double covered for someone else to make the catch. In recent years, he lacked the speed to warrant the double coverage, but as a player, he is top 5 to play his position ever; Jerry Rice will always be number 1.Roy Hersh wrote:I've long despised Randy Moss and his lousy work ethic, while still respecting his talent.
Well, he retires with two now, the previous from Super Bowl XXXV.Roy Hersh wrote:Conversely, it would nice to be able to see Ray Lewis retire with one ring. That being said, IF I was a betting man, my money would be on SF.
Not that great. It would have been best if the 49er's won but didn't cover the spread. A lot of money was paid out to the Raven's bettors. When the bets started, the prop bets for a safety occuring was 900:1. Later it dropped to 450:1, but I understand more than a few bets were won on that one.What a game. Big day for Vegas!
Unless there was a second instance, Flacco wasn't yet out of bounds on that particular play that the announcers talked about. He was definitely on his way out of bounds, but he was still fully in-bounds when the defender launched and the impact occurred before any part of Flacco touched the ground out of bounds. You might try to argue QB safety, but it doesn't apply as Flacco had tucked the ball to run and was out of the pocket. At that point he's a runner just like anyone else. But I think the play I'm thinking of occurred in the first half, so we might be talking about different plays.Eric Ifune wrote:There was a roughing the passer on Flacco and another late hit on him out of bounds in the 4th quarter.