If you could only buy from four producers, who would they be?
Moderators: Glenn E., Roy Hersh, Andy Velebil
-
- Posts: 5942
- Joined: Wed Aug 30, 2006 7:38 am
- Location: Boston, USA
Re: If you could only buy from four producers, who would they be?
Seeing a repeating theme of producers...
Fonseca
Graham
Ramos Pinto
Taylor
Fonseca
Graham
Ramos Pinto
Taylor
Welsh Corgis | F1 |British Cars
Re: If you could only buy from four producers, who would they be?
Fonseca
Dow
Quinta do Noval
Taylor
Gould Campbell
Oh wait, that is 5 ...
Dow
Quinta do Noval
Taylor
Gould Campbell
Oh wait, that is 5 ...
Ambition driven by passion, rather than money, is as strong an elixir as is Port. http://www.fortheloveofport.com
-
- Posts: 258
- Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:45 am
- Location: Geleen, The Netherlands
Re: If you could only buy from four producers, who would they be?
This is a really tough question, especially with my limited experience. But it had me read my TN's from the last few years again. I seem to have had port from about 15 producers, LBV, VP, 10y old, 20y old, crusted and some colheita's and can pick three who I really seem to love above the other ones:
Graham (esp. VP)
Dow (esp. VP)
Ferreira (esp. for the 20 y old)
The fourth one would be either Niepoort, Fonseca or Q. de Vesuvio. Still not decided.
Funny thing is that Fonseca by far makes the largest part of my collection...
Graham (esp. VP)
Dow (esp. VP)
Ferreira (esp. for the 20 y old)
The fourth one would be either Niepoort, Fonseca or Q. de Vesuvio. Still not decided.
Funny thing is that Fonseca by far makes the largest part of my collection...
Re: If you could only buy from four producers, who would they be?
I'm updating my list having drunk some more =)
#1 still fonseca- vp/svp
#2 noval - colheitas and some vps
#3 offley - vps
and I don't really need the rest.
#1 still fonseca- vp/svp
#2 noval - colheitas and some vps
#3 offley - vps
and I don't really need the rest.
Disclosure: Distributor for Quevedo Wines in NY
Re: If you could only buy from four producers, who would they be?
1. Grahams
2. Fonseca
3. Dows (Surprised me)
4. Gould Campbell
2. Fonseca
3. Dows (Surprised me)
4. Gould Campbell
Any Port in a storm!
- Andy Velebil
- Posts: 16640
- Joined: Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:49 pm
- Location: Los Angeles, California, United States of America - USA
- Contact:
Re: If you could only buy from four producers, who would they be?
Interesting lists, and reasons....keep them coming folks
Andy Velebil Good wine is a good familiar creature if it be well used. William Shakespeare http://www.fortheloveofport.com
-
- Posts: 48
- Joined: Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:54 am
- Location: Lisbon, Portugal
Re: If you could only buy from four producers, who would they be?
1. Fonseca
2. Taylors
3. Noval
4. Gould Campbell - although I was told by a representative of Symington that the intention is to discontinue this label soon and focus on lesser labels/brands. This was the answer I received to my question as to why has Symington not produced GC 2011 VP. I hope that this does not materialize. Have any of you heard anything similar?
2. Taylors
3. Noval
4. Gould Campbell - although I was told by a representative of Symington that the intention is to discontinue this label soon and focus on lesser labels/brands. This was the answer I received to my question as to why has Symington not produced GC 2011 VP. I hope that this does not materialize. Have any of you heard anything similar?
- Andy Velebil
- Posts: 16640
- Joined: Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:49 pm
- Location: Los Angeles, California, United States of America - USA
- Contact:
Re: If you could only buy from four producers, who would they be?
Not sure what their plans are but hopefully a Sym can chime in here and clarify.Goncalo Martins wrote: 4. Gould Campbell - although I was told by a representative of Symington that the intention is to discontinue this label soon and focus on lesser labels/brands. This was the answer I received to my question as to why has Symington not produced GC 2011 VP. I hope that this does not materialize. Have any of you heard anything similar?
Andy Velebil Good wine is a good familiar creature if it be well used. William Shakespeare http://www.fortheloveofport.com
Re: If you could only buy from four producers, who would they be?
Interesting! I see that Graham and Fonseca and a few others dominate many lists. Too bad Fonseca is not very easily available here in Finland (or Sweden) and I have yet to taste their tawnies.
I would stick to:
- Dow's
- Kopke
- Offley
I hesitate to pick further houses due to just 1-2 bottles of experience yet, as I'm still discovering them. But I loved Calém and Burmester (20 yo's).
I would stick to:
- Dow's
- Kopke
- Offley
I hesitate to pick further houses due to just 1-2 bottles of experience yet, as I'm still discovering them. But I loved Calém and Burmester (20 yo's).
Re: If you could only buy from four producers, who would they be?
If I'm looking at buying newly released port over the last few years from only 4 producers, my list would be slightly different from before. In no particular order, it would be:
Quinta do Noval (regular blend and the Nacional blend if I could afford it and find someone who had some in stock!)
Quinta do Vesuvio (got to keep that vertical going)
Graham
Fonseca
It would probably be a different list if I was buying mature port. Quinta do Vesuvio would obviously not be on the list!
Quinta do Noval (regular blend and the Nacional blend if I could afford it and find someone who had some in stock!)
Quinta do Vesuvio (got to keep that vertical going)
Graham
Fonseca
It would probably be a different list if I was buying mature port. Quinta do Vesuvio would obviously not be on the list!
- Eric Ifune
- Posts: 3417
- Joined: Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:02 pm
- Location: Las Vegas, Nevada, United States of America - USA
Re: If you could only buy from four producers, who would they be?
Noval
Taylors (now that they have Weise&Krohn)
Sogrape (cheating here)
Symington Family (cheating again!)
Taylors (now that they have Weise&Krohn)
Sogrape (cheating here)
Symington Family (cheating again!)
- Derek T.
- Posts: 4080
- Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2005 5:02 pm
- Location: Chesterfield, United Kingdom - UK
- Contact:
Re: If you could only buy from four producers, who would they be?
No change.In 2011 Derek T. wrote:Fonseca
Graham
Noval
Vesuvio
-
- Posts: 707
- Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:27 am
- Location: New York, NY, USA
Re: If you could only buy from four producers, who would they be?
So interesting that not that many are naming Taylor as one of their picks!
Dont have a ton of experience, but given the QPRs I have found, would go with
- Fonseca
- Graham
- Ferreira (for the tawnies)
- Kopke (also for the tawnies)
Dont have a ton of experience, but given the QPRs I have found, would go with
- Fonseca
- Graham
- Ferreira (for the tawnies)
- Kopke (also for the tawnies)
- Andy Velebil
- Posts: 16640
- Joined: Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:49 pm
- Location: Los Angeles, California, United States of America - USA
- Contact:
Re: If you could only buy from four producers, who would they be?
For me, it's the lack of diversity in the Taylor's line up. With only four to chose from I was looking at producers to provide a mix of VP, Douro wines, wood aged, and other Ports. And those that drink well young and old. Something Taylor's is limited on IMO. Though I may change that in the future once I see what they do with the old Krohn's stocks. And in the past I've not generally been a fan of Taylor's when young due to the excessive "Vargellas heat" I get (though in all fairness the 2011 didn't have this near as much so I hope they are dialing that back).Miguel Simoes wrote:So interesting that not that many are naming Taylor as one of their picks!
Andy Velebil Good wine is a good familiar creature if it be well used. William Shakespeare http://www.fortheloveofport.com
- Glenn E.
- Posts: 8186
- Joined: Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:49 am
- Location: Sammamish, Washington, United States of America - USA
- Contact:
Re: If you could only buy from four producers, who would they be?
I'm going to change my vote to:Eric Ifune wrote:Noval
Taylors (now that they have Weise&Krohn)
Sogrape (cheating here)
Symington Family (cheating again!)
SFE
TFP
Sogrape
Noval
Glenn Elliott
-
- Posts: 5942
- Joined: Wed Aug 30, 2006 7:38 am
- Location: Boston, USA
Re: If you could only buy from four producers, who would they be?
The question was posed purely on port, not including dry wines, etc... My list would've been different if I took their whole portfolio under consideration.Andy Velebil wrote:For me, it's the lack of diversity in the Taylor's line up. With only four to chose from I was looking at producers to provide a mix of VP, Douro wines, wood aged, and other Ports.
Welsh Corgis | F1 |British Cars