Starting a new thread to clear this up and get rolling with this (the original thread is here: http://fortheloveofport.com/ftlopforum/ ... =1&t=14451)
After talking this out with Glenn and Andy and volunteering to lead the charge on this FTLOP Tasting we came up with the following:
The best way to facilitate this tasting is to get a Core Three and people can add additional bottles for the 20-Year Tawny Horizontal Tasting as needed (we tried to nominate ones people could easily obtain in the USA, apologies to our other FTLOPers not in the USA--but please join us if you can). In this manner small groups can participate and larger ones can go larger--but we also keep some consistency making the result more meaningful. It would be great to get as many groups as possible and with a 3 minimum, a group as small as 3 or 4 could do a tasting. Also, I have volunteered to tabulate the results and if desired do a write up/article reporting the findings.
Here are the Core Three as per Glenn:
1. Ramos Pinto Quinta do Bom Retiro (if you cannot find sub in Taylor or Noval)
2. Ferreira
3. Sandeman
If including a 4th, strongly suggest the Niepoort, but it's up to you.
The tasting date is October
I trust you find this plan acceptable; just trying to put it together in a cohesive manner and include as many as possible
Are you in? Let us know.
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Just to make it official, I'll be holding a tasting in the Seattle area!
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We'll be holding one in the Sacramento area. Whether we conform to the newly proposed format remains to be seen (but I think that by default we will, since we already have all of those 20's and more).
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The NJ Port Club will try to stick to the original 6 as much as possible--although I did find a source for J.H. Andresen that is close by (Elizabeth). Wish I could find Ferreira close by and I will include that one.
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Love it; sounds great John, thank you for organizing. Glenn, I would be happy to attend your Sammamish event.
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So far we have 3 dedicated groups participating (El Dorado, CA, Samammish WA and New Jersey).
It would be great to have more--we need more. In the format suggested, you could be as small as 2 or 3 people and still do the tasting--and expand as needed. Who is in?
It would be great to have more--we need more. In the format suggested, you could be as small as 2 or 3 people and still do the tasting--and expand as needed. Who is in?
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For some reason, I had it in my mind that we were going to be holding a world-wide 20 year old tawny tasting as one of our contributions to world port day early next year.
Was I just imagining this or have plans changed while I've been busy?
Was I just imagining this or have plans changed while I've been busy?
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Hi Al:
It's been October for quite awhile (the Port Day 2.0 was proposed, but October became the date). Can you put together a group and join us??
John
It's been October for quite awhile (the Port Day 2.0 was proposed, but October became the date). Can you put together a group and join us??
John
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Any suggestions as to how long would you open these/decant before tasting--it's a group so it will be one shot?
Niepoort
Taylor
Sandeman
Ferreira
Quinta do Noval
Ramos Pinto Bom Retiro
Niepoort
Taylor
Sandeman
Ferreira
Quinta do Noval
Ramos Pinto Bom Retiro
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I'd just pop and pour all of them at the same time.John M. wrote:Any suggestions as to how long would you open these/decant before tasting--it's a group so it will be one shot?
Niepoort
Taylor
Sandeman
Ferreira
Quinta do Noval
Ramos Pinto Bom Retiro
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Trying to get some people in the L.A. area to take part. If anyone is around the Los Angeles / Orange County area let me know.
As for dates I'm open for the 13 and 19-20. So let me know if you can make it (or not) and what day works best for you. As soon as I hear from the majority of people I'll decide on a day.
As for dates I'm open for the 13 and 19-20. So let me know if you can make it (or not) and what day works best for you. As soon as I hear from the majority of people I'll decide on a day.
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OK--thanks. Just asking because there was a recent TN that suggested the Niepoort 20 Year Tawny showed best after 2 days. My inclination was to open then in the morning or at noon the day of the event just to let the "steam blow off" a little.John M. wrote:Any suggestions as to how long would you open these/decant before tasting--it's a group so it will be one shot?
Niepoort
Taylor
Sandeman
Ferreira
Quinta do Noval
Ramos Pinto Bom Retiro
Then Andy Wrote:
I'd just pop and pour all of them at the same time.
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The UK contingent had a tasting this evening and decided to join in on the 20-YT event. We will report back soon on what we will be drinking
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I am so proud of my UK brothers, they are finally drinking Tawny'sDerek T. wrote:The UK contingent had a tasting this evening and decided to join in on the 20-YT event. We will report back soon on what we will be drinking
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We have heard that tawny port can be drunk as a palate primer before starting the vintage port.Andy Velebil wrote:I am so proud of my UK brothers, they are finally drinking Tawny'sDerek T. wrote:The UK contingent had a tasting this evening and decided to join in on the 20-YT event. We will report back soon on what we will be drinking
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No No NoAl B. wrote:We have heard that tawny port can be drunk as a palate primer before starting the vintage port.Andy Velebil wrote:I am so proud of my UK brothers, they are finally drinking Tawny'sDerek T. wrote:The UK contingent had a tasting this evening and decided to join in on the 20-YT event. We will report back soon on what we will be drinking
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The tasting at my place is set for Saturday October 20, 2012. If you would like to join us in the Los Angeles/Orange County area let me know and I'll send you the details.
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The Sammamish version of the event will be Saturday, October 27th at my house. Unless it expands beyond 10 people, in which case we'll have to find an alternate venue. If you'd like to join Roy and I for this tasting, send me a PM or an email and I'll save you a spot!
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Our tasting is set of October 19th--we've got a full house with 13 expected attendees. We've got 6 Tawnies (close to the the basic list first envisioned by Carl & Phyllis)--might add a 7th. So far there's at least 6 groups on board including one in the UK!!
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The Ramos Pinto 20-yr olds that I ordered for the tasting have already arrived, and they're the old-style label. I like that label better, to be honest, so I'm glad that's what I got!
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