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Name on cork

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:40 am
by Lars F
Hi

I just had a bottle of Romariz 1991 VP, and when I pulled the cork, it said Morgan Vintage Port on the cork. Why is this?

-Lars

Re: Name on cork

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 6:24 am
by Roy Hersh
That is a darn good question. Hopefully Uncle Tom, the master of 1991 bottles of Morgan will be able to let us all know.

Re: Name on cork

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:27 am
by Andy Velebil
Interesting indeed?

Re: Name on cork

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:22 am
by Tom Archer
Romariz has no vineyards of its own, and therefore has to buy in wine from other producers to bottle as its own.

Your discovery would seem to have unveiled a little secret - through someone getting the corks muddled up, Romariz 1991 VP would appear to be sourced from Morgan - a very sound choice, I might add!

Tom

Re: Name on cork

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:31 am
by Roy Hersh
Thanks Tom.

Very interesting!

Also, I was wondering if you ever determined what that cork was in the bottle of 1895/1896?

Re: Name on cork

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:41 am
by Tom Archer
Also, I was wondering if you ever determined what that cork was in the bottle of 1895/1896?
After washing with hydrogen peroxide to bleach the cork, and thereby raise the contrast on the branding, it was revealed to be TAYLOR VINTAGE 1927

Tom

Re: Name on cork

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:04 am
by Roy Hersh
Now that is a shocker. Great job Tom!

In the scheme of life ... that was one weak bottle of T27!!!!!!!!

Re: Name on cork

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:27 pm
by Andy Velebil
uncle tom wrote:
Also, I was wondering if you ever determined what that cork was in the bottle of 1895/1896?
After washing with hydrogen peroxide to bleach the cork, and thereby raise the contrast on the branding, it was revealed to be TAYLOR VINTAGE 1927

Tom
That is a shocker. But in retrospect the fill was low (mid shoulder IIRC) so that would most likely account for it. Still a good bottle though.

Re: Name on cork

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:50 pm
by David Spriggs
Wow! What a surprise...
Pictures.. we want pictures! :D

-Dave-

Re: Name on cork

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 1:26 am
by Tom Archer
Pictures.. we want pictures!
I'm afraid my digital camera goes out of focus if I try to capture something that small..

I keep looking at this cork, lest I've misread it, as the date is the most difficult part to read, and the typeface looks rather old, with fine lines and large serifs.

That it starts with a 1 and ends with a 7 is beyond dispute, the third digit is very faint, but is just identifiable as a 2. The second digit is missing its lower half, but could only be an 8 if the lower loop were much smaller than the upper one; the lower loop would also cross an area that appears undamaged.

Therefore, this wine, which I described in my notes as 'Hot, pale, bit sad, bit of a beast, Taylor? - dead!'

- is almost certainly the revered T27

Maybe it spent years in a hot attic or shed - who knows..

Tom

Re: Name on cork

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 12:37 am
by simon Lisle
I've mailed the merchant concerned to tell him what the bottles actually are.Thanks Tom

Re: Name on cork

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 2:23 am
by Derek T.
Tom,

If you send me the cork I will photograph it and post a picture of it.

PM or email me and I'll give you the address.

Derek

Re: Name on cork

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 12:04 pm
by Roy Hersh
I guess I liked the wine more than some, as I found it actually improved in the glass, as it had only just been decanted for sediment thinking it was over 30 years older, which is an enormous difference at that age. I have had the 1927 four or five other times and it never was as light as what we thought was an old Cockburn's from the 19th century. About 15 minutes after it was in the glass, there was a distinct change in the nose and on the palate and I was pleased (not knowing what it was at the time as there had been lots of discussion/confusion over that detail) at how nicely it turned out before fading away. Surprisingly unctuous too, but it all makes sense. Great bottles of T27 typically have considerably more ruby to the center and this was far from that, even with the hard lighting.