Andy Velebil wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:27 pm
What is charme Bairrada? I assume a different wine than the other Charme?
https://www.niepoort-vinhos.com/en/wines/
CHARME BAIRRADA
The "Charme" from the Douro Valley tastes fantastic - so how about a "Charme" produced in the same way, but from a completely different terroir such as the Bairrada region with its cool climate, exceptional calcareous soils, and using old Baga vines?
Yes Andy, Niepoort has a few wines like this that they have produced in small quantities but do not have yet a name or label. I know they have from Alentejo, Bairrada and Dao. They all have their code name when you taste them :) Some Dirk says he'll never release because it is too good! you know
I opened one bottle last week, I prefered Poerinho Garrafeira to Charme.
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Paul C. Metman wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:43 amhttps://www.niepoort-vinhos.com/en/wines/
CHARME BAIRRADA
The "Charme" from the Douro Valley tastes fantastic - so how about a "Charme" produced in the same way, but from a completely different terroir such as the Bairrada region with its cool climate, exceptional calcareous soils, and using old Baga vines?
Would love to try that one! Bairrada wine are fun. I doubt it'll ever make it here. Niepoort has awful distribution in MA. Was decent in the 1990's
Paul C. Metman wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:43 amhttps://www.niepoort-vinhos.com/en/wines/
CHARME BAIRRADA
The "Charme" from the Douro Valley tastes fantastic - so how about a "Charme" produced in the same way, but from a completely different terroir such as the Bairrada region with its cool climate, exceptional calcareous soils, and using old Baga vines?
Would love to try that one! Bairrada wine are fun. I doubt it'll ever make it here. Niepoort has awful distribution in MA. Was decent in the 1990's
So he has two wines, same name, different wines SMH
Paul C. Metman wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:43 amhttps://www.niepoort-vinhos.com/en/wines/
CHARME BAIRRADA
The "Charme" from the Douro Valley tastes fantastic - so how about a "Charme" produced in the same way, but from a completely different terroir such as the Bairrada region with its cool climate, exceptional calcareous soils, and using old Baga vines?
Would love to try that one! Bairrada wine are fun. I doubt it'll ever make it here. Niepoort has awful distribution in MA. Was decent in the 1990's
So he has two wines, same name, different wines SMH
It is not new or surprising for Niepoort. They did a Sempar in Douro, Bairrada and now Alentejo. I used to be able to keep up with everything now I can't anymore ahah
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Eric Menchen wrote: ↑Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:37 pm
Quinta do Barão Carcavelos Última Reserva, unknown year, but it has a DOC sticker with "Decreto Lei Nº 246/94" followed by guarantee bottle number. 1994 seems a reasonable guess from the condition of the bottle.
Eric - If you have not figured it out already, you purchased a fifteen-year-old blend, bottled in the 1990s; that is, after 1994, when Quinta do Barao was bringing its operations to a close. The farm and its manor house, which now belongs to the municipality of Cascais, has been abandoned for twenty years or thereabouts. A proposal from fifteen years ago to turn the property into a museum came to nought; the current thinking, such as it is, extends to the turning of the large house into student accommodation.
I think that they are really dialing in the style and not making it so "in your face". Starting with the 2014 I could really see a change. Not a huge change, but more balanced and not as HUGELY oaky. I'm only buying a six each year.
Picked up a 1997 and 2000 Herdade do Mouchao in Lisbon.
Also tasted and bought a 30 year old Carcavelos from a Quinta do Barao, apparently from an old cask.
Got a 30 year old JM Fonseca Bastardhinho as well.
Eric Ifune wrote:Picked up a 1997 and 2000 Herdade do Mouchao in Lisbon.
Also tasted and bought a 30 year old Carcavelos from a Quinta do Barao, apparently from an old cask.
Got a 30 year old JM Fonseca Bastardhinho as well.
They were telling me about that Carcavelos at GN. How was it? Since you bought some I presume you thought it worth the price.
I thought it pretty good. Better than the Bella Vista I got a few years ago.
To me, worth the price given the extreme rarity of aged Carcavelos these days. There's only 4 or so hectares in the entire appellation!
I'll post a note.
This was 99 euros. There were two other bottlings, one 185 euros and one 299 euros. They really didn't know much about them, and I would be hesitant to purchase without tasting. I did apply for the VAT refund.
1990 Caves São João Reserva
2004 Bacalhoa 10 Anos Superior Setúbal Moscatel
2015 Luis Pato Vinho Regional Beiras Quinta do Ribeirinho Pé Franco (Baga)
2015 Herdade do Mouchão Alentejo Sobremesa Dessert Early Bottled (Alicante Bouschet)
2015 Doña Maria Julio B. Bastos Grande Reserva (Alicante Bouschet)
From the Three Regions Tour.
Quinta do Baixo 2015 Lote D;
Herdade do Mouchao 2013 X 2;
Messias Quinta do Valdoeiro 2002 X 2, a blend of Baga and Touriga Nacional;
Fita Preta Preta 2013, 2014, 2018;
Cartuxa Scala Coeli 2015, Touriga Nacional;
Quinta do Carmo Julio B. Bastos 2015 X 2;
Quinta da Falorca Garrafeira 2017 X 2;
Quinta do Sobral Vinha da Neta 2019 Branco X 2, 2015 Tinto.
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