For The Love Of Port

Miguel Simoes wrote:Smaller production volume that year?

Smaller production for sure. What vintages are you comparing to? How do they price next to '83 and '85?

Moses Botbol wrote:

Miguel Simoes wrote:Smaller production volume that year?

Smaller production for sure. What vintages are you comparing to? How do they price next to '83 and '85?

The only 1980 bottle I have is a GC that I paid $57.5 for. Others like G, D and T seem to be more like $70+

I've been able to find 83 G for under $60, 77 D for $75 and 77 G for $65. All of those supposedly as good or better than any 1980 VP.

Was also able to get quite a few F 85 for $70.

Miguel Simoes wrote:I've been able to find 83 G for under $60, 77 D for $75 and 77 G for $65. All of those supposedly as good or better than any 1980 VP.

Was also able to get quite a few F 85 for $70.

I see Graham, Taylor, or Sandeman 80 equal 77 Dow or Graham. Dow has a lot of bottle variance and Graham can be on the hot side.

1999 Niepoort LBV

Moses Botbol wrote:

Miguel Simoes wrote:I've been able to find 83 G for under $60, 77 D for $75 and 77 G for $65. All of those supposedly as good or better than any 1980 VP.

Was also able to get quite a few F 85 for $70.

I see Graham, Taylor, or Sandeman 80 equal 77 Dow or Graham. Dow has a lot of bottle variance and Graham can be on the hot side.

1991 Croft VP. What I love about this Port is that it is showing some secondary character already. Most 1994s are still such youngsters w/ very little in the way of development considering 20 years of age. Not the case with this beautiful version from 1991, one of the truly outstanding Croft Ports post 1945.

Miguel Simoes wrote:2011 Barão de Vilar VP - from the recent WTSO deal.
Opened it yesterday, sitting in decanter. Enjoyed it though the tannins were a bit harsh... hoping that they mellow out w time in decanter.

Had some last night that finally tasted more balanced (ie, enjoyable) after a full day in decanter and 2 back in the bottle. Lets see what the future holds...

Miguel Simoes wrote:

Miguel Simoes wrote:2011 Barão de Vilar VP - from the recent WTSO deal.
Opened it yesterday, sitting in decanter. Enjoyed it though the tannins were a bit harsh... hoping that they mellow out w time in decanter.

Had some last night that finally tasted more balanced (ie, enjoyable) after a full day in decanter and 2 back in the bottle. Lets see what the future holds...

3 days will be where you want it to be.

Miguel Simoes wrote:

Miguel Simoes wrote:2011 Barão de Vilar VP - from the recent WTSO deal.
Opened it yesterday, sitting in decanter. Enjoyed it though the tannins were a bit harsh... hoping that they mellow out w time in decanter.

Had some last night that finally tasted more balanced (ie, enjoyable) after a full day in decanter and 2 back in the bottle. Lets see what the future holds...

Yes, amazing what two or three days can do to a very young VP. Let us know how day 3 goes.

Andy Velebil wrote:Yes, amazing what two or three days can do to a very young VP. Let us know how day 3 goes.

Not great. Had some last night and it felt like the fruit was starting to fade. Good that we're almost done w it.

Fonseca 1983 - nice drinking but only a mid-eighties score

1970 Grahams Vintage. Rocked with 12 hours in decanter. Finished off the Andresen 10 Year after the Graham.

Moses Botbol wrote:1970 Grahams Vintage. Rocked with 12 hours in decanter. Finished off the Andresen 10 Year after the Graham.

V excited to hear reg the G 70! Taking note of the decant time :)

Miguel Simoes wrote:

Moses Botbol wrote:1970 Grahams Vintage. Rocked with 12 hours in decanter. Finished off the Andresen 10 Year after the Graham.

V excited to hear reg the G 70! Taking note of the decant time :)

I would do at least 7 hours. I decanted and let sit for 4-5 hours, then poured back into the bottle 5+ hours before serving.

1977 Kopke Colheita

1983 Tuke Holdsworth VP
NV Tuke Holdsworth Porto Wine Reserve

The '83 was damaged due to a dried out cork. The Reserve is nice and a good QPR at $14 in WA.

Kopke 20 Year Old Tawny. Very nice when first opened. I'll see if I can get a TN together tonight.

Quevedo 20 year old Tawny Port
1994 Dow's Vintage Port

Eric Menchen wrote:Kopke 20 Year Old Tawny. Very nice when first opened. I'll see if I can get a TN together tonight.

Warm up for this weekend?

1994 Fonseca VP.

Still a youngster, but beautifully integrated, well structured and the finish went on and on!