Re: "port" from other places
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:08 am
I appreciate Roy's explanation, and I was not trying to divert the topic. I think the idea of having a separate forum for other port style or even other dessert wines would be great. "other discussions" seems a little too generic.
On the specific topic in which Andy asked what other non-Portuguese port we have tried and enjoyed lately....
One is the Alasia Commandaria from Cyprus which claims to be the first wines of its style ever made claiming 4000 years. It was drunk during the Crusades by Crusaders . It is widely used as a communion wine in the orthodox church. It is not a fortified wine but the color and taste are very much like port. It has a pale ruby with slight amber tints color and tastes like port to me. Sometimes it seems like ruby and other times like a tawny, sort of a hybrid, maybe colheita is a better comparison. It probably would not fool someone like Roy, but I think a lot of port lovers tasting it blind would think it is port. The alcohol is stated at 15%. It is surprising that they get it that sweet with that much alcohol without fortifying but they let the grapes get overripe and then sun dry them to get more sugar and they must have some strain of yeast that survives that much alcohol.
It is quite good about 90 points. Great value if you can find it around $20.
I also like the Heitz Cellars Ink Grade, another 90 points and the wine I think for which I was told years ago in this forum would not fit on this board under "port". Glad it now "fits".
The Heitz states on its label that it is fortifed (18%) and is following a specific blending of tradtional port from Portuguese grape varietals. That is a curiosity in itself as one does not think of those varietals being grown or otherwise being present in Napa.
On the specific topic in which Andy asked what other non-Portuguese port we have tried and enjoyed lately....
One is the Alasia Commandaria from Cyprus which claims to be the first wines of its style ever made claiming 4000 years. It was drunk during the Crusades by Crusaders . It is widely used as a communion wine in the orthodox church. It is not a fortified wine but the color and taste are very much like port. It has a pale ruby with slight amber tints color and tastes like port to me. Sometimes it seems like ruby and other times like a tawny, sort of a hybrid, maybe colheita is a better comparison. It probably would not fool someone like Roy, but I think a lot of port lovers tasting it blind would think it is port. The alcohol is stated at 15%. It is surprising that they get it that sweet with that much alcohol without fortifying but they let the grapes get overripe and then sun dry them to get more sugar and they must have some strain of yeast that survives that much alcohol.
It is quite good about 90 points. Great value if you can find it around $20.
I also like the Heitz Cellars Ink Grade, another 90 points and the wine I think for which I was told years ago in this forum would not fit on this board under "port". Glad it now "fits".
The Heitz states on its label that it is fortifed (18%) and is following a specific blending of tradtional port from Portuguese grape varietals. That is a curiosity in itself as one does not think of those varietals being grown or otherwise being present in Napa.