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Are 2000 VP's shut down now?

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 9:59 am
by Nevski
Just wondering how drinkable 2000 VP's are now? It's seven years from the harvest and they should currently be in the "shut down" phase. Lately I have been tasting only a couple of bottles and they both have been closed (Dow, Warre) but what is vintage's status overall now?

I'm considering to buy some cases but this makes me hesitate because I also want to crack open some bottles..

-Antti-

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 10:15 am
by Andy Velebil
Antti,

Generally speaking, I would say yes. I've had a few in the past 6 or so months and noticed some of them are starting to shut down.

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 10:42 am
by Otto Nieminen
Antti, I agree that they do seem a bit shut down and to my tastes have been so for about a year now. Fonseca and Warre are two that I most recently tried. They both showed that they are excellent Ports (Fonseca especially is a real beauty, but the Warre is much to my tastes also) - so they aren't as utterly shut down as, e.g. Bordeaux can be, but I wouldn't open them now. Though I might make an exception for a formal tasting.

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 11:44 pm
by Kris Henderson
Antti, Yes, I think the 2000 vintage is in a shut down phase. I opened a Fonseca 2000 not long ago and it was not giving much aromatically. After 24 hours in the decanter it started to open up but was still tight.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:08 am
by Nevski
Mutual consensus seems to be that they are indeed close. Maybe I should focus to '94 vintage instead.. Thanks guys!

-Antti-

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 10:19 am
by Derek T.
Antti,

Lots of the 1994's are still a few years or decades from showing their best and some may be "closed" - perhaps you should focus on lesser, earlier maturing, years like 91/92 or go back to the 80's - almost anything you find there will be ready now, assuming you have access to these in Finland.

Derek

Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 9:48 pm
by Alex R
I just open a 2000 fonseca vp and you guys are right. It just seem like it was sleeping and didn't want to wake up at all :?

Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 10:11 pm
by Todd Pettinger
Alex R,

How much decanter time do you give that Fonseca 2000? I'm going to take a wild stab and say you will likely need at least 14-18 hours, possibly 2 days before that baby opens up just a tad.

Alan, feel free to preach on about infanticide... I'm not sure I could have even sacrificed a Fonseca '00! ;)

Todd

Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 11:16 pm
by Alex R
it was only a half bottle and it was in the decanter for over 12 hours.

Re: Are 2000 VP's shut down now?

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:02 am
by nicos neocleous
Nevski wrote:Just wondering how drinkable 2000 VP's are now? It's seven years from the harvest and they should currently be in the "shut down" phase. Lately I have been tasting only a couple of bottles and they both have been closed (Dow, Warre) but what is vintage's status overall now?

I'm considering to buy some cases but this makes me hesitate because I also want to crack open some bottles..

-Antti-
I agree with the m=comments so far. They are mostly shut down at present.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:58 am
by João Rico
They're passing trough the "Dark Phase" and i think most of them will be in this phase untill the 15 YO.


João Rico