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1977 Dow’s Vintage Port
Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 11:24 am
by Andy Velebil
1977 Dow’s Vintage Port
The had great depth of color still and was showing no signs of age. However, one smell told me all there was, corked! N/R
01/31/09
Re: 1977 Dow’s Vintage Port
Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 10:09 pm
by Jonathan S
Oh, no! I hate to hear that it was corked...

Re: 1977 Dow’s Vintage Port
Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 8:52 am
by Moses Botbol
That sucks. I bet you were looking forward to that bottle.
My buddy opened a '77 Dow a week or so ago and it was corked too
The Dow '77 seems to run the whole spectrum from sublime to down the drain.
Re: 1977 Dow’s Vintage Port
Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 9:16 am
by Andy Velebil
The Dow is quickly becoming the "83 Cockburn" of the '77 vintage. I've had and have recently heard of a lot of corked bottles of this. A true shame, as with the Cockburn, when the bottle shows perfectly it's a great VP.
Re: 1977 Dow’s Vintage Port
Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 9:30 am
by Moses Botbol
Andy Velebil wrote:The Dow is quickly becoming the "83 Cockburn" of the '77 vintage. I've had and have recently heard of a lot of corked bottles of this. A true shame, as with the Cockburn, when the bottle shows perfectly it's a great VP.
:stupid:
Do you think the corks are to blame?
Re: 1977 Dow’s Vintage Port
Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 9:35 am
by Andy Velebil
Moses Botbol wrote:Andy Velebil wrote:The Dow is quickly becoming the "83 Cockburn" of the '77 vintage. I've had and have recently heard of a lot of corked bottles of this. A true shame, as with the Cockburn, when the bottle shows perfectly it's a great VP.
:stupid:
Do you think the corks are to blame?
No, I figure it's the alignment of the moons and stars in relation to the angle of offset the bottle was at when filled on the bottling line.

Re: 1977 Dow’s Vintage Port
Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 9:59 am
by Moses Botbol
Ah yes, but of course.

Re: 1977 Dow’s Vintage Port
Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 9:34 pm
by Jonathan S
Andy Velebil wrote:The Dow is quickly becoming the "83 Cockburn" of the '77 vintage. I've had and have recently heard of a lot of corked bottles of this. A true shame, as with the Cockburn, when the bottle shows perfectly it's a great VP.
You know, I was really close to buying a bottle of this yesterday, but, after reading this information, I am going to pass... It's just too big of a risk. What a shame, too, for I often read (and hear) wonderful things about the Dow's 77!
Re: 1977 Dow’s Vintage Port
Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 4:45 am
by Moses Botbol
Jonathan S wrote:
You know, I was really close to buying a bottle of this yesterday, but, after reading this information, I am going to pass... It's just too big of a risk. What a shame, too, for I often read (and hear) wonderful things about the Dow's 77!
It's not as risky as Cockburn '83, if that helps. I've had this port maybe a dozen times and 2-3 bottles have been off, 1-2 showed just OK, the rest have been splendid... Hope that helps clarify things some?
Re: 1977 Dow’s Vintage Port
Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 6:38 am
by Andy Velebil
No it's not as bad as the '83 Cockburn's....but I do keep hearing about more and more corked bottles of this. I recently bought my last batch of them, only because it was a great price, and I have no plans on buying any more. The risk vs. price is generally to great IMO.
Re: 1977 Dow’s Vintage Port
Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 8:34 am
by Paul David
Sorry to hear Andy. 2 bad ones this past year for me. One when Eric visited us last Summer. This is now officially black listed with me.
Re: 1977 Dow’s Vintage Port
Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 9:42 am
by Moses Botbol
Paul David wrote:Sorry to hear Andy. 2 bad ones this past year for me. One when Eric visited us last Summer. This is now officially black listed with me.
Has anyone tried Dow '77 in a magnum recently? Were magnums hand poured and corked back then?
Re: 1977 Dow’s Vintage Port
Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 12:10 pm
by Glenn E.
I've only had the 1977 Dow twice, and according to others both bottles were off. I have to say "according to others" because I didn't even notice that the first bottle was corked (and neither did anyone else until the next day), and the second came late enough in a tasting that my palate had already been overwhelmed but I have been assured that it was off also.
Not a great track record, but then again I liked both bottles the day I tasted them and had to be told later that they were off.
Re: 1977 Dow’s Vintage Port
Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 8:15 pm
by Jonathan S
Glenn E. wrote:Not a great track record, but then again I liked both bottles the day I tasted them and had to be told later that they were off.
Just imagine how much you will enjoy the 1977 Dow's when it is "on."
