1795 Southside Madeira Association Terrantez

[Peter Reutter]

In a couple of weeks I would like to post some interesting facts about the 1795 Southside Madeira Association Terrantez on the MadeiraWineGuide website. I researched this wine for almost two years now. A lot of different sources provided enough information, so it is finally possible to draw a rough picture of the wine. But this picture is still somewhat sketchy in many aspects. The most important question of course is: is the wine genuine? I think I have enough evidence to answer with a YES, but still a little doubt remains. Frankly I need some help from the board-members to find some still missing links

What I would like to now is:

Has anyone ever tasted this wine or heard of a tasting note?

I have heard rumors about a Michael Broadbent tasting note, but I have not been able to find it. Can anybody come up with this tasting note?

Do you own a bottle of this wine? Where and when did you get it? (I am not asking for auction-prices, I just want to find out in what countries and what time period this wine has ever been sold.)

Any other bit of information is highly appreciated! May be we can solve that mystery with the joined Madeira wine knowledge of this board. If we can't I have no idea who could...
Thanks
Peter

[Roy Hersh]

Hi Peter,

I just checked in Michael Broadbent's most recent version of VINTAGE WINE and although there are 3 TN's on 1795 bottlings, one is the Lomelino, one is the Barbeito and one is marked as "Island bottled, Provenance unknown."

Sorry I can't be of more help.

[Alan Gardner]

Hi Peter,
I have the Broadbent reference - but have never encountered the wine itself.

Broadbent refers to this in his New Great Vintage Wine Book [1991 Christies; Knopf (New York)] - although it is a summary entry:
"1795 ****
Generally very good.
Terrantez
Several notes. One bottle, labelled "South Side Madeira Association Ltd Funchal", turned out to be rather a curiosity; a bit too deep in colour, a peculiar nose, a cross between lightly malted calf's-foot jelly and a rather drab raya sherry; fairly sweet, rich, quite a nice old drink. On six other occasions I have tasted......[other different wines - not relevant].


Alan

[Peter Reutter]

Thanks Alan,

I only have the 2002 edition of "Vintage wine" and the TN wasn't in there. Thanks a lot, this will go into the article. I will wait a little longer, to see if any other bits of info come in, then I will post the article about this 1795 "curiosity".

Peter

[Peter Reutter]

Is there really nobody out there owning at least one bottle of this wine? About 15 bottles have been sold at auction in a two year time span from 2010 to now, so I find that a little hard to believe. At least one or two owners should be madeira-mad enough to also participate in this forum...

I don't want to know about prices, I would just like to know when and where (country!) you got your bottle of 1795 SSMA Terrantez.

Thanks
Peter

[Peter Reutter]

Dear board members!

I posted a new chapter about the 1795 Southside Madeira Association Terrantez on the MadeiraWineGuide website. This chapter sums up about two years of detective-like research and I hope it will make for an interesting read. Also I updated the chapter about the 1795 Terrantez wines so all the info about these wonderful wines is now available in one place.

Enjoy!

Peter

[Reidar Andersen]

GREAT work Peter, also good to hear that my three 1795 CVM T are real ... ...

[Marco D.]

Very nice article, Peter. Thanks for posting!

[Eric Ifune]

Great stuff Peter!

[Bob Stern]

Peter...I'd say your article most strongly points to this wine being the same as the IVM bottling and that these are in all likelihood genuine. It is curious that Barbeito has bottled a 1795 T. I wonder the source? One might think that Justino would have had any left over supply from IVM. The Barbeito bottlings appear to have been done after the IVM/SSMA bottlings. At least this corroborates the idea that 1795 Terrantez was made in some quantity and stored, as witnessed by the numerous producers and releases over the years. Also, why would IVM/SSMA pick 1795 as the vintage to fake over some other dates (eg. 1790, 1846, etc.)? Your finding that SSMA actually existed is to me the final loose end in the mystery and removes what has seemed to be the greatest doubt as to authenticity. No one has seemed to question the IVM bottling, and now there should be no reason to question the SSMA....Bob