1983 Taylor's VP
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1983 Taylor's VP
First, let me say I hope everyone had a great New Year. Since sunny Southern California is pouring rain right now, and since I was supposed to go see the Rose Parade but decided to stay dry at home this year, I am doing a little cellar reorganizing and catching up here on FTLOP.
So, I recently picked up 2 of these and I did a search for any tasting notes, However, I could not find any. What are your thoughts on this VP? Should I drink now or should these be stored for a bit longer before opening?
Any info is always welcome and I hope everyone has a great 2006 :!:
So, I recently picked up 2 of these and I did a search for any tasting notes, However, I could not find any. What are your thoughts on this VP? Should I drink now or should these be stored for a bit longer before opening?
Any info is always welcome and I hope everyone has a great 2006 :!:
Andy Velebil Good wine is a good familiar creature if it be well used. William Shakespeare http://www.fortheloveofport.com
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I'm in the same boat as Tom. This is clearly a lost year for Taylor as there are few rave reviews. I too put in a bid recently, at Christies, and got a case from an impeccable source at a remarkable price (less than GBP30 per bottle including all costs).
I've put it into storage for now, but going by Broadbent I will take it out within a few years.
Would like to see some notes from others first
I've put it into storage for now, but going by Broadbent I will take it out within a few years.
Would like to see some notes from others first
Stuart Chatfield London, England
Obviously I am a huge Taylor fan. But I have always said, that the '80s was "the lost decade" for Taylor as 1980, 1983 and 1985 were all mediocre wines. A real shame. The best of the bunch is the excellent 1987 Taylor's Quinta de Vargellas. Otherwise, you can skip Taylor Port from the lost decade.
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Tom,
It is almost 3:30. Speaking to friends in the UK, Portugal and SA is a frequent event in my household. You'll never see me posting at 8 or 9 a.m. that I can tell you. I do my best writing at night when the house is quiet. That stems from a lifetime working nights in hotels and restaurants.
It is almost 3:30. Speaking to friends in the UK, Portugal and SA is a frequent event in my household. You'll never see me posting at 8 or 9 a.m. that I can tell you. I do my best writing at night when the house is quiet. That stems from a lifetime working nights in hotels and restaurants.
Ambition driven by passion, rather than money, is as strong an elixir as is Port. http://www.fortheloveofport.com
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I'd agree on the 80 (which I've had a lot of) and the 83 (which I've had very little of but I am about to try some more :twisted: ) however, I can't understand why so few people like the Tayor 85 :? . Although I doubt it'll have the staying power I like it almost as much now as the 77.Roy Hersh wrote:Obviously I am a huge Taylor fan. But I have always said, that the '80s was "the lost decade" for Taylor as 1980, 1983 and 1985 were all mediocre wines. A real shame. The best of the bunch is the excellent 1987 Taylor's Quinta de Vargellas. Otherwise, you can skip Taylor Port from the lost decade.
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I just had the 83 Fonseca for New Years, and found it to be good but not memorible. This was my second 83 (I had the 83 Taylor) in the last 6 months, and from what I can tell, the 83 vintage is weak. And unless someone can recommend something better, I will avoid buying anymore wines from this vintage.
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Thanks for all the great feedback. I guess I'll pop these sooner than later. When I do I, of course, will post TN's.
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I've had the Taylor 80, 83, and 85 - and agree with Roy! This is not what Taylor is about.
They are OK, but I expect an aweful lot more from an even average Taylor!!
I like the 83 Fonseca - no, not phenominal but damn good. Incidently I dislike the 80 Fonseca as it's weak and watery (maybe an off batch? Possible, but I don't think so).
The 83 Cockburns is the pick of the litter - but too young
Ted
They are OK, but I expect an aweful lot more from an even average Taylor!!
I like the 83 Fonseca - no, not phenominal but damn good. Incidently I dislike the 80 Fonseca as it's weak and watery (maybe an off batch? Possible, but I don't think so).
The 83 Cockburns is the pick of the litter - but too young
Ted
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